You Don't Have CP
Untold Physio StoriesSeptember 16, 202400:08:0014.81 MB

You Don't Have CP

In this episode Erson revisits a case from 12 years ago about an adult female with mild CP. In the past, he was the first PT who had used IASTM and manual therapy on her, plus introduced her to a mirror box. This greatly improved her complaints of tightness and improved use of her involved L UE. 12 years later, she has seen both a neurologist and her PCP both who told her she didn't have CP, craziness! Erson also talks about updates to my treatment and some surprising findings from a mirror neurons perspective.


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[00:01:19] Welcome back to Untold Physio Stories Podcast, I'm a new host, Dr. Erson Religioso III with

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[00:01:32] So, recently a patient who I had seen several years ago and I probably even told

[00:01:40] it not told Physio Stories about her.

[00:01:43] She is an adult female and has mild CP with some involvement in her left arm.

[00:01:51] At the time she had come to see me back before I was cash based, her main complaint was,

[00:01:56] you know, difficult to use in her left hand.

[00:01:58] She was able to oppose her index finger in her thumb but otherwise I had difficulty grasping.

[00:02:04] General Titanus, left side of her cervical spine and arm.

[00:02:09] Since I was just getting started with the Edge Tool and doing a lot of ISTM, I just thought,

[00:02:15] hey, you know what?

[00:02:16] I don't really have any experience in using manual therapy, ISTM, self tissue work on someone

[00:02:22] with mild CP.

[00:02:24] So, let me just try this and see what happens.

[00:02:26] That the time I was again transitioning between, you know, more mechanical effects

[00:02:32] and thoughts and explanations to more neurophysiologic.

[00:02:37] So, over the course of several weeks, I had done some just very light ISTM in a forearm

[00:02:42] and all along her hand.

[00:02:44] And we noticed that after each session, she was able to oppose her thumb and her third

[00:02:51] and her fourth digit as well, but difficulty with the fifth.

[00:02:55] Then I ended up introducing her to a mirror box and she said that, you know, she pretty

[00:02:58] much just wanted to live in this thing because sticking her left hand in the mirror box

[00:03:03] and watching it reflect her right hand, it was the first time to her that her left hand

[00:03:08] had appeared to have that illusion of having completely normal mobility and control.

[00:03:14] So she left pretty happy after about a month of care, maybe one to twice a week.

[00:03:20] Fast forward, I haven't seen her in maybe 12 years.

[00:03:25] And recently she's been having similar complaints.

[00:03:29] She changed jobs and now she cleans houses for a living which is very difficult

[00:03:33] against you mostly uses her right arm.

[00:03:36] She told her primary and neurologist and I guess the first crazy thing about this story

[00:03:42] is neither her primary nor her neurologist, new she had CP.

[00:03:48] For me that was just mind blowing. I mean, I think the either the primary or the neurologist

[00:03:53] said, oh you don't have CP and you thought wow, it's a physical therapist. It wasn't completely

[00:03:58] obvious to me and she said well I'm really good at hiding it but I just thought,

[00:04:03] should you be able to hide that from an empty? I don't know, especially in a neurologist.

[00:04:07] I don't know, again, it's part out of our wheelhouse and probably don't see a lot of people

[00:04:14] maybe adults with mild CP. I'm not sure but I just kind of found that disturbing to say the

[00:04:22] least. She was prescribed OT and she did a ton of work. Just traditional exercise is strengthening

[00:04:29] as much as she could with her left arm which is the involved side. And I think the craziest thing

[00:04:36] is that it made her right elbow and right forearm have symptoms. She was using because she basically

[00:04:44] said, you know, her being more aware of most people, she understands the concept of the mirror

[00:04:50] and mirror neurons after I introduced her to the mirror box just that much use and strengthening

[00:04:57] in general exercise of her, of her, involved side may her unenvolved side actually be symptomatic

[00:05:03] and very sore. So I started off with just repeated elbow extension. She had a moderate loss

[00:05:10] of elbow extension with kind of like an empty end feel. I did some ISTM and some repeated elbow

[00:05:17] extension resets. That restored her elbow extension however it was still mildly painful and

[00:05:22] unraged over pressure. I wasn't too worried about that. One thing I realized I probably did

[00:05:29] into so many years ago because I didn't, I was kind of just working on my clinical practice patterns.

[00:05:35] Is that it really assess her cervical spine too much? I may have done some like tissue work

[00:05:40] on her cervical spine and trap it and see, then she have a loss of cervical retraction

[00:05:45] inside bending to the left. She turns out she did. Her neck range of motion is

[00:05:50] probably moderately limited to the right but it was severely limited with side bending

[00:05:54] to the left, especially with cervical retraction. So I started there again. I checked her

[00:06:00] opposition or opposition was still better than when I initially seen her for the first visit last year.

[00:06:07] It may not last year or last several years ago, 12 years ago. She could still oppose to her

[00:06:14] second digit and her third digit but not her fourth. With cervical retraction,

[00:06:21] repeated cervical retraction and side bending to the left along with some soft tissue work

[00:06:25] to the cervical spine and upper traps, then traction retraction inside bending in non-weight bearing.

[00:06:32] Several sets of that her opposition and her four arm motion with a little bit more

[00:06:37] controlled and her elbow motion supination pronation was just a little more controlled. She had

[00:06:43] generally less feelings of tightness. So I added that as a reset. I don't think that was a

[00:06:48] reset for her recovery plan 12 years ago. cervical retraction inside bending to the left. However,

[00:06:55] she's going to have to overpressure with her right hand to kind of pushing into side bending

[00:07:00] to the left. Then I did the standard ISTM on her hand and her forearm and she felt better as before.

[00:07:07] So that wasn't really the highlight of this story. The highlight of this story for me was that the

[00:07:13] her work in reverse and some major exercise and strengthening to her involved side actually made

[00:07:20] her right side so were because as she said her right side is always trying to make up for the lack

[00:07:26] of function and her left side. She was an exercising right side at all but it felt like she had a

[00:07:31] major workout, major dons and she had some significant elbow irritability from all the flexion and

[00:07:37] the pull down and the bicep curls or whatever else she was doing. So let me know what you guys think

[00:07:46] of this story. I thought it was a really interesting case. Hopefully Andrew would join me one of

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