389 | Boost Your Metabolism, Reboot Your Health, and Boost Longevity with Vince Pitstick

[00:00:05] Welcome to the Optimal Body Podcast. I'm Dr. Jen.

[00:00:08] And I'm Dr. Dom. And we are doctors of physical therapy, bringing you the body tips and physical therapy pearls of wisdom to help you begin to understand your body, relieve your pains and restrictions, and answer your questions.

[00:00:19] Along with expert guests, our goal of the Optimal Body Podcast is really to help you discover what optimal means within your own body. Let's dive in.

[00:00:29] Excited to bring to you our guest today, Vince Pitstick. With over 18 years of dedication to health and wellness, Vince Pitstick stands as a testament to the power of evolution in the realm of holistic health.

[00:00:40] His journey originating from humble beginnings as a personal trainer and nutrition coach for both competition and lifestyle clients has blossomed into a role as a pioneer in functional and holistic nutrition coaching.

[00:00:52] Vince really gives us his whole story front to back why he's so passionate about what he does and why the system that he has set up really can be seen as a fix for a lot of the holes that he sees in our current Western medical system.

[00:01:06] Let's get into it.

[00:01:07] Vince, thanks so much for taking some time to be with us today. Nearly two decades of work kind of in the nutrition, functional nutrition space. We're super excited to pick your brain a little bit.

[00:01:17] Yeah, I'm glad to be here. Thanks for having me for sure.

[00:01:19] So what made you get into all of this and stick with it for as many years as you have? Because I'm sure it's transformed throughout the years as well.

[00:01:28] When I first like got into the functional health or what's just, what's just, and when I use the word functional, we're talking root cause, which really, believe it or not, even a personal trainers root cause, whether people want, you know, that's the funny thing is like when I talk to a lot of, cause I travel and I speak across the country to different types of practitioners that use different modalities to help people.

[00:01:48] Whether you're a chiropractor and use your hands, whether you're a nurse practitioner and maybe use hormones, whatever your thing is.

[00:01:58] Cause I've been speaking around the country on this for a very, very long time.

[00:02:01] And I started in the medical field as a, as a functional health, what they call it as like an advisor and a consultant for medical firms, networks, and how to build cash pay, weight loss, other functional healing or holistic health programs into practices.

[00:02:20] Right. And one of the, one of the things that, you know, stuck out to me very, very early on is that whether you do, whether you know what the word functional means or not, most people are doing some type of root cause therapy and fitness is one of the first ones.

[00:02:40] That's where I kind of got my start, you know, 18 years ago.

[00:02:44] Interrupting really quickly to ask how you're hydrating yourself, especially during the new year, especially when people might,

[00:02:50] add a little alcohol around this time in the holidays.

[00:02:54] Are you hydrating? And with that hydration, are you feeling supported?

[00:02:59] Getting water is one thing, but adding electrolytes is a whole other thing.

[00:03:02] And this is why we recommend elements so much.

[00:03:06] And it's made such a huge impact, not only in just reaching for my water more often and really hydrating my body, but feeling good.

[00:03:13] And it's really cool to also hear the feedback that I've been able to hear from other people in my life.

[00:03:19] And it's, I love going to friends' houses and seeing them add element.

[00:03:22] And I'm not even saying anything.

[00:03:24] And I'm just like, this is cool.

[00:03:25] This is the people that I'm surrounded myself with because they want to feel good within your body.

[00:03:30] So especially if you've been feeling fatigued, if you hit that midday, you know, brain frog,

[00:03:37] you're getting cramps and you're getting headaches, you're feeling weak, add element.

[00:03:41] You're going to not regret it.

[00:03:43] It helps anyone stay hydrated without the sugar and other dodgy ingredients found in popular electrolyte drinks and sports drinks.

[00:03:50] And they're really committed to, you know, using what is research-based and getting and helping replenish your body.

[00:03:59] So I highly recommend check out drinkelement.com backslash optimal.

[00:04:05] Not only do you help support our podcast, but you get a free sample pack as well with each purchase.

[00:04:10] So that is drinkelement.com backslash optimal.

[00:04:15] Or we'll have it linked up in the show notes.

[00:04:18] And for me, what happened was I had built a relatively outside of Chicago.

[00:04:25] I was a very sick boy.

[00:04:26] Seven years old, had a rare, let's get the highlights, high notes here.

[00:04:31] Yeah.

[00:04:31] Very sick boy, travels the United States to try to find the root of his physical illness and his mental illness.

[00:04:38] It's like seven years old, which is rare for a boy at that age.

[00:04:43] Come to find out later, it was a combination of chemical exposure and trauma in the home.

[00:04:49] I did not have like the, my parents are amazing people.

[00:04:52] They just couldn't make it work at the time.

[00:04:53] Let's say that.

[00:04:54] I love them both today individually.

[00:04:56] You know, but going through the right nutrition, going to the right holistic health practices and the right kind of therapy, emotional therapy unlocked it for me.

[00:05:09] So I'd already had exposure to multiple modalities working at once.

[00:05:14] What I didn't know at a younger age, you know, was that all of them together at once was the right answer.

[00:05:20] And that's kind of where my understanding of how to solve problems comes because I'm in school for this finance degree in college.

[00:05:28] And I realized that like, who's going to, it was during the financial fallout.

[00:05:33] Who's going to give me money?

[00:05:34] Oh, and by the way, I don't want to do any of this.

[00:05:36] I was doing this because I thought that's what other people wanted me to do.

[00:05:40] And I always had this natural gift for coaching.

[00:05:43] You know, I always think that your gift will make room for you.

[00:05:45] You know, it's kind of the, your gift is the thing that you can do with like the littlest amount of effort that gets the maximum amount of outcome.

[00:05:51] It may not be the thing you're passionate about.

[00:05:53] Like I was passionate about basketball.

[00:05:55] I was passionate about bodybuilding, which I was at the time early on, like a, like a competing on national stages.

[00:06:03] Uh, but coaching is the thing that came the most natural that got the greatest impact.

[00:06:07] And so when I leaned, when I leaned into that, it started to grow rapidly outside of Chicago.

[00:06:13] But what I realized very, very quickly is that people were coming to me with problems, especially during the personal training boom.

[00:06:19] This is again, 18 years ago.

[00:06:21] Right.

[00:06:22] Uh, so people were coming to personal trainers for everything.

[00:06:25] Um, and so instead of people just saying, Hey, I want to lose weight for the summer.

[00:06:29] It was like, I'm depressed.

[00:06:31] I'm bloated.

[00:06:32] I'm distended.

[00:06:33] I can't lose weight very well.

[00:06:35] I started seeing these things very early on in my career.

[00:06:39] And I've learned that while my title at the time may have been personal trainer, really what I am in any consultant is, is a trusted guy.

[00:06:47] You come to me to solve a problem.

[00:06:49] And while maybe I personally do not have the tools, what I think my job should be is to coordinate you with the right people in the right process to actually liberate you from the thing that is holding you back.

[00:07:03] Right.

[00:07:03] Instead of just applying the same treatment to every person that comes in the door.

[00:07:09] Like if you go to a chiropractor, guess what?

[00:07:12] Every answer is going to include adjustment.

[00:07:14] You go to a personal trainer, every answer is going to include workouts.

[00:07:18] And it's not that those things aren't in and of themselves great tools, but typically when you're trying to solve a complex system, if someone, anyone who's listening to this has had a problem for more than six months, your issue doesn't just live in one system.

[00:07:33] It's usually multiple systems of the 11 systems of the body.

[00:07:36] And that's where root cause medicine comes in.

[00:07:39] That's what functional technically means, where you would look at what systems are off in the body.

[00:07:43] And then let's work on each one of those systems in a coordinated deductive process to create a real long lasting outcome.

[00:07:52] Now, it's probably hard for people to grasp what I'm suggesting.

[00:07:55] But the idea is I started as a trainer.

[00:07:58] I ended up adding, incorporating in a hormone doctor.

[00:08:02] I added and incorporated into nutrition, supplementation.

[00:08:05] I even coordinated in, again, whether it was soft tissue or chiropractic or whatever.

[00:08:11] And it grew very large.

[00:08:13] And then I got poached by a global medical health company called Metagenics.

[00:08:18] You may be familiar with the supplement Metagenics, right?

[00:08:21] Right. Metagenics is actually, though, kind of works like a pharmaceutical company where they have a research facility, Gig Harbor, Washington.

[00:08:29] They're testing different types of health programs, products, ingredients, things like that.

[00:08:33] And then whatever they discover, they make products from.

[00:08:36] And then they hire doctors and they train them.

[00:08:40] And then they send them out to train other people with seminars and things like that.

[00:08:43] And in many ways, that's how a pharmaceutical company works.

[00:08:46] And what powers them is the supplement sales, right?

[00:08:49] And so they have reps all across the country.

[00:08:52] And they poached me.

[00:08:54] And I went off to train out in San Clemente, California for many, many months.

[00:09:02] And I had to train under a guy called Dr. Jeff Lee Bland, which is the founder of the IFM and is also basically considered the godfather of functional medicine.

[00:09:13] I had no idea at the time.

[00:09:16] I'm still heavy in my meathead phase.

[00:09:19] I'm probably, if you could imagine a guy that's probably sitting around 230, blonde tip hair, piercings, tan to the hill.

[00:09:27] You know what I mean?

[00:09:28] I'm pretty tan now because of the Florida sun.

[00:09:31] And I'm walking in thinking primarily high protein dieting, beat you into the ground six days a week with training, reduce your calories.

[00:09:41] Oh, but I was still into these.

[00:09:43] I was still into supplements.

[00:09:44] I was still into some of these other things.

[00:09:46] And they show me this whole other world of science, research, programmings that I never knew existed, never seen it, never saw research, never heard anybody doing it.

[00:09:58] I thought I was on the forefront because I was offering things like fish oil and vitamin D, which by the way, 18 years ago was like crazy talk.

[00:10:07] Yeah.

[00:10:08] You know?

[00:10:08] And now today it's like, oh, you don't take vitamin D.

[00:10:11] Most common.

[00:10:11] Right.

[00:10:12] Yeah.

[00:10:12] So everything that I've ever, what I figured out in the end to try to give something that people can understand.

[00:10:20] All I did was the process, the deductive process of everyone's ever tried to build muscle where they go, okay, I've got to get this many calories.

[00:10:29] I have to get this much protein.

[00:10:30] I need to work out this many days a week.

[00:10:32] I might throw in so much cardio.

[00:10:33] And then I have someone who's a coach that watches my biofeedback daily and then lets me know what to do next and makes adjustments.

[00:10:41] That we'll call it bodybuilding process.

[00:10:44] Right.

[00:10:45] Because I was a bodybuilding coach.

[00:10:46] If you apply the process to solving something like diabetes or even depression and anxiety, right?

[00:10:56] And then you add functional medicine research.

[00:10:59] Like here's things for your hormones.

[00:11:00] Here's what we're going to do for stress.

[00:11:02] Here's what we're going to do for your digestion.

[00:11:05] Here's what we're going to do for your endocrine system, your thyroid.

[00:11:07] Now, all of a sudden in one process, I'm working all kinds of systems.

[00:11:14] And then that's how you create insane outcomes, which is why I go, I'm going to podcast, writing books, doing everything I can to tell people that the real method of solving things could be done.

[00:11:26] Through the framework of a health coach or online dietitian or practitioner who's willing to work a functional root cause process with people.

[00:11:37] And that we've proven creates some of the greatest success, statistical success outcomes or the greatest, what we'll call consistency to outcome almost in any modality in the world.

[00:11:52] And that's what I was able.

[00:11:53] And I got tired of trying to teach doctors this.

[00:11:56] I did it for years, right?

[00:11:57] I was in that world for over six years and I said, I'm done doing this.

[00:12:02] I'm going to show you guys how to do it.

[00:12:04] And so I don't need anyone's permission and I don't even need a license to do this.

[00:12:09] I did get certified as a health coach and I had my certifications as a personal trainer.

[00:12:13] So I quit and I opened up a practice in the back of a chiropractic office.

[00:12:18] I didn't even have enough money to borrow sharing an office with someone.

[00:12:23] I mean, that's how it usually starts.

[00:12:25] Yeah.

[00:12:25] Waynesville, Ohio, which if you know where that's at, I feel sorry for you.

[00:12:29] And you shouldn't know where that's at.

[00:12:31] And then it turned into the largest one-on-one functional health coaching company in the United States.

[00:12:37] And then after that, I opened up businesses wherever I found problems.

[00:12:42] So for example, my women, women that are on here will know,

[00:12:46] if you've ever tried to work nutrition and then go see a hormone specialist,

[00:12:49] maybe you go to an endocrinologist and then you have an OB

[00:12:52] and then you've got your general practitioner.

[00:12:54] And then you're kind of stuck with these health issues that nobody really knows how to fully solve,

[00:12:59] but everybody's got their ideas.

[00:13:01] And then maybe you go see a nutritionist or you get conflicting information

[00:13:05] about what you should be doing with your body.

[00:13:08] If you get on Instagram or you get on YouTube

[00:13:10] or you Google your symptoms at 2 a.m. in the morning,

[00:13:14] you're going to find out a whole lot of information

[00:13:17] that just gives you analysis paralysis, right?

[00:13:20] You're not quite sure what to do.

[00:13:22] And it's simply because you're going to doctors for different systems.

[00:13:27] The OB, you can do hormones and reproductive.

[00:13:30] You go to the thyroid specialist, the endocrinologist.

[00:13:34] You go to the GP, which is kind of general and is looking at everything.

[00:13:40] And then maybe you go to a personal trainer who's focusing on the musculoskeletal system, right?

[00:13:46] But none of them are working together.

[00:13:48] Yeah.

[00:13:49] Right.

[00:13:49] So everyone just falls through the cracks because systems medicine doesn't have a net

[00:13:54] because it doesn't look at the body as a whole,

[00:13:57] which is why we have more doctors, more research, more pills, bigger medicine than ever.

[00:14:04] And people are getting sick at an all-time rate in almost every category you can possibly think of,

[00:14:10] particularly lifestyle disease issues.

[00:14:14] And it's simply the way that we try to solve problems does not work.

[00:14:17] And your listeners will know that if you've struggled for anything

[00:14:20] and went to a doctor for results and are still trying to figure out why you can't solve the problem.

[00:14:26] And it's simply because how you're trying to solve problems does not work

[00:14:31] from a Western medicine standpoint.

[00:14:33] You need a root cause deductive approach,

[00:14:37] working with someone who can work all the systems together

[00:14:39] and then refer you out to someone who's synergistic

[00:14:42] if they maybe don't have all the tools in their toolbook at the time, right?

[00:14:48] So that's what we did.

[00:14:49] And so now I've got my own endocrinology clinics,

[00:14:52] online hormone clinics that will work with anybody in the country,

[00:14:55] synergistically with the programs.

[00:14:57] We have coaching centers, virtual coaching centers.

[00:15:00] We've got the university where we teach these methods now.

[00:15:02] We have the apps and the supplements and we've launched all of that.

[00:15:06] So we have our own very first,

[00:15:08] what we'll call functional health online network

[00:15:11] that works with people globally.

[00:15:13] And that's called Vital Enterprises.

[00:15:15] And that can be hard.

[00:15:16] Like I guess sometimes it's good to tell the story

[00:15:18] so people can understand.

[00:15:19] Yeah.

[00:15:19] What do you do and how do you do it, right?

[00:15:23] Because it's hard for people to understand

[00:15:25] when only 12.5% of people have ever even heard of functional medicine

[00:15:28] or a health coach or even like an online nutritionist, you know?

[00:15:33] Right.

[00:15:33] Well, I kind of think that we can wrap things up there because I just think this is so cool

[00:15:38] because you spoke purely to one of my biggest soap boxes,

[00:15:42] which is the specialization in medicine that we're seeing at every level

[00:15:46] and every type of practitioner, even going through PT school.

[00:15:49] The first question people would ask me is like,

[00:15:51] what are you going to specialize in?

[00:15:53] And the first thing that I was noticing in the clinic is that

[00:15:55] I don't need to become more specialized.

[00:15:57] I need to understand better how to work with someone on behavior change,

[00:16:00] how to better reach them emotionally.

[00:16:02] Because the biggest changes that I saw in people's pain

[00:16:05] was when I listened to their story,

[00:16:06] was when I helped them problem solve and puzzle together the stresses in their life

[00:16:12] and how they can sleep better,

[00:16:14] do some of the general things in life a little bit better.

[00:16:16] And then their back pain got better.

[00:16:17] And it had nothing to do with the exercises I was giving them.

[00:16:21] And I was the weirdo, you know?

[00:16:24] And I just noticed that the route of specialization

[00:16:27] was contributing to exactly what you said,

[00:16:29] more medical dollars spent per capita

[00:16:31] and some of the worst Western medicine health outcomes in the world,

[00:16:36] you know, by country.

[00:16:37] I love my PTs, by the way.

[00:16:39] They're some of my favorite people at our university

[00:16:41] that learned functional tools.

[00:16:43] I'm actually going through a huge...

[00:16:45] I've had a bad ski injury.

[00:16:47] And, you know, PT is one of those worlds

[00:16:48] where there's such a diversity of routes that you can go, right?

[00:16:52] I mean, there's so many methods.

[00:16:54] There's so much that you can get into.

[00:16:55] And an individual can ask themselves a couple questions.

[00:17:00] One is like, oh, you know, it's like,

[00:17:02] oh, I just need to know more information, right?

[00:17:06] So it's like, I need to learn more methods

[00:17:08] of doing just the one thing, right?

[00:17:11] Yeah.

[00:17:12] Of how I manipulate soft tissue

[00:17:14] or how I set up firing sequences

[00:17:18] or how do I get alignment back into play?

[00:17:20] And they can get so far down the rabbit hole

[00:17:23] that it turns into something called expert's curse.

[00:17:26] There's an old story about Albert Einstein.

[00:17:28] He gets off stage from giving a speech on physics.

[00:17:34] He gets off stage and a little boy runs in front of him

[00:17:37] and his shoes are untied.

[00:17:38] And he asked Einstein to tie his shoe for him.

[00:17:40] And Einstein tried to explain to him how to tie his shoe.

[00:17:43] And he got so frustrated

[00:17:44] that he just stormed off cursing, right?

[00:17:47] It was one of the,

[00:17:48] so the reason I share that

[00:17:49] is that the more specialized you get in one thing,

[00:17:54] your paradigm,

[00:17:55] which is the thing where you decide

[00:17:56] what you're going to listen to and what you don't,

[00:17:58] gets so small

[00:18:00] that you actually become unrelatable

[00:18:03] to most people's issues.

[00:18:05] For example, if you go to,

[00:18:06] you want specialization in a certain area,

[00:18:09] children's heart surgeon, right?

[00:18:11] Okay.

[00:18:12] Children's heart surgeon,

[00:18:13] your paradigm should be pretty small.

[00:18:15] You need to learn how to work with a very tiny heart

[00:18:18] and that's all you do.

[00:18:21] But then for everything else,

[00:18:23] you're not very useful.

[00:18:25] So when you get over specialized,

[00:18:27] then you become less useful

[00:18:30] to majority of the world and its problems,

[00:18:32] which is okay in certain areas.

[00:18:34] But the problem is,

[00:18:35] is because we're so specialized

[00:18:37] and because we don't work together

[00:18:39] like Cleveland Clinic,

[00:18:40] we're actually less useful

[00:18:42] to the average American

[00:18:44] and the things that they are struggling with.

[00:18:45] And so everyone falls through the cracks

[00:18:47] and that's what we're seeing very obviously

[00:18:49] in public health today.

[00:18:51] And so I fully identify.

[00:18:53] But then the PTs that learn like,

[00:18:55] ooh, if I coordinate between nutrition,

[00:18:58] emotion,

[00:18:59] and then of course,

[00:19:01] joint stabilization into mobility,

[00:19:03] into strength,

[00:19:04] and they find a process,

[00:19:07] they can become unlimited.

[00:19:09] And that's what we did.

[00:19:10] I developed a process

[00:19:12] called the 4F system

[00:19:14] that we've trademarked,

[00:19:15] that I teach PTs,

[00:19:17] chiros,

[00:19:18] NDs,

[00:19:19] MDs,

[00:19:20] or just someone who wants to help somebody

[00:19:22] who was a weekend warrior at the gym.

[00:19:24] We convert them into online

[00:19:26] or in-person

[00:19:27] functional health practitioners

[00:19:29] at our university

[00:19:31] every single day now

[00:19:32] because our method is reproducible.

[00:19:35] And that's my whole passion

[00:19:37] is getting people into the fight

[00:19:38] and getting them out of dead-end jobs

[00:19:40] that are really

[00:19:40] killing their vitality

[00:19:42] and stealing their zest for life.

[00:19:44] Well, and I think you brought up something

[00:19:46] really early on

[00:19:47] within your story

[00:19:49] about how

[00:19:50] we automatically saw

[00:19:52] how connected the brain-gut is

[00:19:54] when all your issues

[00:19:55] start to translate

[00:19:57] back to the trauma

[00:19:58] and the stress that you're having.

[00:19:59] And we don't talk about that

[00:20:02] enough, right?

[00:20:03] If you go to see your GI doctor,

[00:20:04] you're only going to focus

[00:20:05] on what's happening within your GI.

[00:20:07] You're not focusing

[00:20:08] on what's happening

[00:20:09] in the full picture.

[00:20:10] And so,

[00:20:11] how does someone start to

[00:20:13] really say,

[00:20:14] okay,

[00:20:14] well,

[00:20:15] I feel like my metabolism

[00:20:16] is slowing down.

[00:20:17] I'm doing all the things

[00:20:18] to try to lose weight.

[00:20:19] I'm dealing with

[00:20:19] all these chronic issues.

[00:20:21] Like,

[00:20:21] how do we start to then

[00:20:22] help these people

[00:20:24] get through?

[00:20:26] Yeah.

[00:20:26] So,

[00:20:27] I like to divide it into

[00:20:28] there's really three conversations here.

[00:20:31] Three levels of like

[00:20:33] if people's metabolic rate

[00:20:35] and what I want listeners

[00:20:37] to get out of this

[00:20:38] more than anything else

[00:20:40] and I think this is important

[00:20:42] because they're usually listening

[00:20:43] to other podcasts

[00:20:45] or they're listening,

[00:20:46] they're on social media,

[00:20:47] they're reading

[00:20:47] bodybuilding.com

[00:20:49] or they're doing whatever.

[00:20:50] 80% of people

[00:20:51] still get most of their health advice

[00:20:52] from like Google,

[00:20:53] right?

[00:20:54] And,

[00:20:55] and what they're hearing is,

[00:20:58] hey,

[00:20:59] this answer to your problem

[00:21:00] is eat less,

[00:21:01] move more,

[00:21:02] right?

[00:21:03] And,

[00:21:04] that is true

[00:21:06] if you are

[00:21:08] someone who meets

[00:21:10] the environment

[00:21:11] of the people

[00:21:12] that are being researched.

[00:21:13] For example,

[00:21:14] what I mean by this,

[00:21:15] people that are being researched today

[00:21:17] are not your clients,

[00:21:19] Jen,

[00:21:20] okay?

[00:21:20] Or your followers.

[00:21:21] They are people

[00:21:22] that are over,

[00:21:24] overfed

[00:21:25] and under stressed.

[00:21:26] Okay?

[00:21:27] Um,

[00:21:28] the people that usually

[00:21:30] listen to this podcast,

[00:21:31] I'm sure,

[00:21:31] or are constantly

[00:21:32] listening to diet advice

[00:21:34] or constantly trying

[00:21:35] to do new diets

[00:21:36] and they're looking

[00:21:37] at that research

[00:21:38] for advice,

[00:21:40] they would be sorely mistaken

[00:21:42] because their body

[00:21:44] has adapted

[00:21:45] and you can,

[00:21:45] you guys,

[00:21:46] PT,

[00:21:46] you'll know about adaption

[00:21:48] and how your body

[00:21:48] adapts to environments.

[00:21:50] You'll know that

[00:21:51] these types of people,

[00:21:53] the other 40 to 50%

[00:21:55] of the population

[00:21:56] that isn't being studied,

[00:21:57] that isn't in the research,

[00:21:59] is women that are

[00:22:01] underfed

[00:22:02] and over stressed.

[00:22:03] Okay?

[00:22:04] And,

[00:22:05] your body will acclimate

[00:22:07] to the environment

[00:22:08] that you're under,

[00:22:09] right?

[00:22:09] And then start having

[00:22:11] some of the same symptoms.

[00:22:13] It's like a bell curve,

[00:22:15] you know?

[00:22:15] If I under eat

[00:22:16] and over stress too long,

[00:22:18] I'll start getting

[00:22:19] some of the same symptoms

[00:22:21] as someone who's under stress,

[00:22:23] meaning under active,

[00:22:24] and over fed.

[00:22:25] I'll start slowly gaining weight,

[00:22:27] I'm getting swollen,

[00:22:28] I'm getting hormonal dysregulation,

[00:22:30] I'm getting emotional mood swings,

[00:22:32] I'm getting rashes and hiving,

[00:22:34] I'm getting maldigestion.

[00:22:35] They're saying

[00:22:35] I have hypothyroidism,

[00:22:37] they're,

[00:22:37] you know,

[00:22:38] I'm getting random hair shedding,

[00:22:39] I'm getting,

[00:22:40] my metabolism seems

[00:22:41] to be slowing down

[00:22:42] more and more and more

[00:22:43] and they're calling it age

[00:22:45] or,

[00:22:45] you know,

[00:22:46] menopause

[00:22:47] or whatever they're calling it.

[00:22:49] And so,

[00:22:49] we end up suffering

[00:22:50] outside the bell curve,

[00:22:52] no matter what side you're on,

[00:22:53] you'll start having

[00:22:54] similar symptomatology.

[00:22:55] So,

[00:22:56] when we look to the research

[00:22:57] for like,

[00:22:58] what is the answer

[00:22:59] for our people,

[00:23:00] they're getting misled

[00:23:01] because those people

[00:23:03] are not in the same environment

[00:23:05] that you are.

[00:23:08] You're not going to find

[00:23:09] one study right now,

[00:23:11] guys,

[00:23:12] on highly stress

[00:23:15] overworked,

[00:23:17] underfed females

[00:23:18] because they're too effing busy

[00:23:21] to do research.

[00:23:24] You guys,

[00:23:25] by the way,

[00:23:25] do you guys have time?

[00:23:26] They don't talk about this

[00:23:27] in research.

[00:23:28] I get so mad.

[00:23:28] I try to talk to some

[00:23:29] of the big names

[00:23:30] that are like very science,

[00:23:32] research heavy people

[00:23:33] and go,

[00:23:34] it's not in the data.

[00:23:35] Well,

[00:23:35] it's because it's not

[00:23:36] in the research participants.

[00:23:37] You're not even looking.

[00:23:39] Are any of you

[00:23:40] going to sit around

[00:23:41] and do research

[00:23:41] for $20 or $50 a day

[00:23:43] and really hamper

[00:23:44] your schedule?

[00:23:45] No,

[00:23:45] you're doing it.

[00:23:46] Excuse my language.

[00:23:47] I hope it's okay.

[00:23:48] But you're doing things.

[00:23:49] You're living right.

[00:23:50] And there's a subsection

[00:23:51] of people

[00:23:51] who have time

[00:23:52] to do those things.

[00:23:53] Those people

[00:23:54] tend to be people

[00:23:55] who have a little

[00:23:56] less going on,

[00:23:58] aren't very active,

[00:23:59] and usually overconsumed.

[00:24:01] Because when you're

[00:24:01] not producing in life,

[00:24:03] when you're not creating,

[00:24:06] when you're not

[00:24:07] doing and being active,

[00:24:08] then you're a consumer.

[00:24:10] If you're not creating,

[00:24:11] you consume.

[00:24:12] So I'll consume

[00:24:13] people's opinions,

[00:24:15] CNN,

[00:24:16] McDonald's,

[00:24:16] extra calories.

[00:24:18] So there's consumers

[00:24:19] and there's creators.

[00:24:21] And a lot of the people

[00:24:22] that are creators

[00:24:22] are the people

[00:24:23] that we're talking about.

[00:24:24] And there's no research

[00:24:25] on them.

[00:24:26] So that's why

[00:24:27] they're getting missed

[00:24:28] like when you're reading

[00:24:29] a lot of this stuff

[00:24:30] and you got your research warriors,

[00:24:32] which I still love research.

[00:24:33] Don't get me wrong.

[00:24:34] I'm very big in it.

[00:24:34] I love being evidence-based.

[00:24:37] I'm just saying

[00:24:38] there's a big gap going on

[00:24:39] where we're being misled

[00:24:41] because the people

[00:24:42] that are most likely

[00:24:43] to buy or listen

[00:24:44] to nutritional education

[00:24:46] are not the people

[00:24:48] in the research

[00:24:49] that we're citing

[00:24:50] about why they have

[00:24:51] the problems.

[00:24:52] Right.

[00:24:53] Yeah.

[00:24:53] I hope that makes more sense

[00:24:55] to why people are feeling

[00:24:57] like they're an upside down world.

[00:24:59] It's like I read the research

[00:25:00] and said that I just need

[00:25:01] to eat less and move more.

[00:25:03] I'm already doing that

[00:25:04] and it's kind of making it worse.

[00:25:05] Right.

[00:25:06] And so you said something earlier

[00:25:07] that is the opposite of that.

[00:25:09] It's the flip side of that.

[00:25:10] And point completely taken

[00:25:13] because I've had a lot of issues

[00:25:15] with sample sizes

[00:25:16] and sample convenience

[00:25:18] of research

[00:25:18] and how it doesn't apply

[00:25:20] to a large percentage

[00:25:21] of the population

[00:25:22] and then we just try

[00:25:23] to take those studies

[00:25:24] and apply them to everybody,

[00:25:25] which isn't what

[00:25:27] a researcher should do.

[00:25:28] They teach you in school

[00:25:29] not to do that,

[00:25:30] but then that is what we do

[00:25:31] because it's the convenient thing.

[00:25:33] Um,

[00:25:34] so make sense for me then

[00:25:36] how the whole

[00:25:37] eat more move,

[00:25:39] well, not move less,

[00:25:40] but eat more to lose weight,

[00:25:41] you know,

[00:25:43] phrase ends up working out

[00:25:44] and ends up calculating out

[00:25:46] because you see people,

[00:25:47] you see people,

[00:25:48] you see people,

[00:25:49] you see people on Instagram

[00:25:50] start to try and tear

[00:25:51] that statement down.

[00:25:53] Oh, this is the stupidest thing.

[00:25:54] Eat more and lose weight.

[00:25:55] That's dumb.

[00:25:56] You know,

[00:25:56] of course,

[00:25:57] of course.

[00:25:58] So there's three stages

[00:25:59] that what happens in like,

[00:26:01] if someone's listening right now

[00:26:02] and they're there,

[00:26:03] they can't lose weight

[00:26:04] or they've noticed

[00:26:06] I'm significantly less able

[00:26:08] to lose weight today

[00:26:09] than I was a few years ago.

[00:26:11] Yeah.

[00:26:12] Or they're noticing

[00:26:12] a dramatic increase

[00:26:13] in their weight

[00:26:14] at the same number of calories.

[00:26:16] There's three stages

[00:26:17] that we have clearly identified

[00:26:19] and outlined at our university.

[00:26:21] The first one is simply

[00:26:22] what we call

[00:26:23] metabolic adaption.

[00:26:25] And so if you want to know

[00:26:27] what your people ask me

[00:26:28] all the time,

[00:26:28] Vince,

[00:26:28] what's my metabolic rate?

[00:26:29] I go to a basal metabolic calculator

[00:26:31] and I put my,

[00:26:33] you know,

[00:26:33] my information in

[00:26:34] and every time,

[00:26:35] whatever it puts out,

[00:26:36] I have to eat less than that

[00:26:39] because it just,

[00:26:40] I can't lose weight at it.

[00:26:41] And it's like,

[00:26:42] well,

[00:26:42] I tell them what you want

[00:26:43] to know what your basal metabolic rate is.

[00:26:45] How much have you been eating?

[00:26:46] What have you been eating?

[00:26:47] How much for the last three months?

[00:26:49] Because what you're basically

[00:26:50] your metabolism

[00:26:51] is what you feed it

[00:26:52] in the last 90 days.

[00:26:54] Okay.

[00:26:54] Because your body

[00:26:55] is supposed to be adaptive.

[00:26:57] Think about training at altitude.

[00:26:58] The first two weeks

[00:26:59] is miserable

[00:27:00] because there's less oxygen.

[00:27:01] Then what does your body do?

[00:27:02] Become efficient with oxygen

[00:27:04] so that you can perform better

[00:27:06] under those environments.

[00:27:08] Right?

[00:27:08] So the,

[00:27:09] so the same thing here,

[00:27:10] if I am constantly

[00:27:12] putting myself

[00:27:13] under high duress

[00:27:15] and there's something

[00:27:16] called CDR,

[00:27:18] by the way,

[00:27:19] cell danger response.

[00:27:20] Now this is where

[00:27:21] you pair the psychology

[00:27:22] with the meta-potabolism.

[00:27:24] If I put my body

[00:27:25] under too much duress

[00:27:26] with very low calories

[00:27:28] so that there isn't

[00:27:29] fast enough calorie production

[00:27:32] or ATP production

[00:27:33] being made

[00:27:34] to meet the demand

[00:27:36] of my immediate need,

[00:27:38] this is where stress

[00:27:40] does play a part

[00:27:40] and adrenaline

[00:27:41] and cortisol.

[00:27:43] There's certainly a factor.

[00:27:45] then my body

[00:27:46] is going to either

[00:27:47] slow down

[00:27:48] all the systems

[00:27:49] of the body.

[00:27:50] This is where we'll get

[00:27:51] into this in a minute.

[00:27:53] Or, right,

[00:27:55] or the other thing

[00:27:56] that it'll do

[00:27:56] is it will,

[00:27:59] it will,

[00:27:59] it will emotionally

[00:28:01] change your mood

[00:28:02] and make you move less.

[00:28:03] So we see that too

[00:28:04] in the data.

[00:28:05] Like,

[00:28:05] like some people

[00:28:06] when they start eating

[00:28:07] less for too long,

[00:28:08] they start becoming

[00:28:09] more generally malaised

[00:28:11] and slightly depressed.

[00:28:12] And so their,

[00:28:13] their,

[00:28:14] their,

[00:28:14] um,

[00:28:15] non-activity

[00:28:16] based movement,

[00:28:17] right,

[00:28:18] starts to slow down.

[00:28:19] Um,

[00:28:19] and then,

[00:28:20] you know,

[00:28:20] so those things

[00:28:21] begin to happen

[00:28:21] and their sleep

[00:28:22] gets off too.

[00:28:23] So they're sleeping less

[00:28:23] and that definitely

[00:28:24] impacts your metabolism.

[00:28:25] So the body

[00:28:26] will work in multiple ways.

[00:28:28] And so the average woman

[00:28:30] will try to lose weight

[00:28:31] starting from the age of 15

[00:28:32] all the way to about

[00:28:33] the research now

[00:28:34] says about 62.

[00:28:35] Um,

[00:28:36] and they'll try to diet

[00:28:37] twice a year

[00:28:37] every single year

[00:28:39] and they'll do it

[00:28:40] through aggressive

[00:28:41] caloric restriction

[00:28:43] and in high stress

[00:28:45] engagement

[00:28:45] of some kind

[00:28:46] with lots of activity.

[00:28:48] So they won't eat

[00:28:49] and they'll be very stressed

[00:28:50] and then they'll

[00:28:51] do a bunch of cardio.

[00:28:53] The issue with that is,

[00:28:55] is that usually

[00:28:56] the body doesn't lose weight

[00:28:57] very efficiently

[00:28:58] in that way.

[00:28:59] So your body composition

[00:29:00] isn't optimal,

[00:29:01] meaning you lost

[00:29:01] too much muscle

[00:29:02] in the process.

[00:29:03] And then you,

[00:29:04] what do we always do

[00:29:05] as human beings?

[00:29:06] We break out of prison

[00:29:08] when we're done

[00:29:09] and we immediately

[00:29:10] go for all the carbs,

[00:29:12] all the alcohol,

[00:29:13] all the things,

[00:29:13] not to mention

[00:29:14] whatever we use

[00:29:15] to try to lose the weight.

[00:29:17] Phentramine,

[00:29:17] caffeine,

[00:29:18] Adderall,

[00:29:19] uh,

[00:29:20] uh,

[00:29:21] energy drinks.

[00:29:22] All of those things

[00:29:23] make our system

[00:29:24] hormonally slightly

[00:29:25] dysregulated,

[00:29:25] which is where we'll

[00:29:26] get into stage two

[00:29:27] of this process.

[00:29:29] I really blame

[00:29:31] modern dieting

[00:29:32] more than I do

[00:29:34] modern calorie

[00:29:35] consumption

[00:29:35] for some of the

[00:29:37] fast,

[00:29:37] rapid weight gain

[00:29:38] that we see

[00:29:39] in the United States.

[00:29:40] Because the more

[00:29:41] that we diet,

[00:29:42] the faster we gain.

[00:29:44] This can be

[00:29:45] clearly seen

[00:29:46] in the data

[00:29:46] when you look

[00:29:47] at diet culture,

[00:29:48] dollars spent

[00:29:49] per capita

[00:29:50] on diet equipment,

[00:29:51] diet processes,

[00:29:52] diet plans,

[00:29:53] and also weight gain

[00:29:54] on average

[00:29:55] in America.

[00:29:57] Because it's hurting

[00:29:58] our metabolism

[00:29:59] every time you diet

[00:30:00] inappropriately,

[00:30:01] crash your diet,

[00:30:02] and then

[00:30:04] quickly

[00:30:06] overconsume

[00:30:06] calories without

[00:30:07] giving your body

[00:30:08] an adjustment

[00:30:09] period of time.

[00:30:10] Then what happens

[00:30:11] is the three

[00:30:12] most important

[00:30:13] really hormones

[00:30:14] in my opinion

[00:30:15] are leptin,

[00:30:16] ghrelin,

[00:30:17] and insulin.

[00:30:18] Okay?

[00:30:19] And they are

[00:30:20] very predicated

[00:30:21] on and they

[00:30:22] don't adjust

[00:30:23] well quickly.

[00:30:24] They need time

[00:30:25] to adjust.

[00:30:26] So if I go

[00:30:27] to a zero carb,

[00:30:28] low calorie,

[00:30:29] and then just

[00:30:30] blast my,

[00:30:31] and I've been

[00:30:31] there too long,

[00:30:32] I'm there for

[00:30:33] four,

[00:30:33] six,

[00:30:34] eight,

[00:30:34] I go maybe

[00:30:34] let's say 12 weeks

[00:30:35] and I don't,

[00:30:36] you know,

[00:30:37] whatever.

[00:30:37] And then I quickly

[00:30:38] shift it too quickly.

[00:30:39] Okay?

[00:30:42] Without supporting

[00:30:42] my system,

[00:30:43] my fat's going

[00:30:45] to go up,

[00:30:45] but my leptin's

[00:30:46] not going to meet it.

[00:30:47] Leptin's a fat

[00:30:48] burning hormone.

[00:30:49] It's supposed

[00:30:50] to be tied

[00:30:51] to how much fat

[00:30:51] you have,

[00:30:52] meaning when I eat

[00:30:54] food and insulin

[00:30:54] is released,

[00:30:55] it'll go into

[00:30:56] my fat cells

[00:30:57] and then my fat

[00:30:57] cells release

[00:30:58] leptin as a response

[00:30:59] and then I start

[00:31:00] burning fat

[00:31:01] and my hunger

[00:31:01] goes down.

[00:31:03] It's a symphony

[00:31:04] though,

[00:31:04] based on very

[00:31:05] unique and quick

[00:31:07] timing.

[00:31:08] That timing

[00:31:09] starts to get off

[00:31:10] and it's important,

[00:31:11] right?

[00:31:11] It's important.

[00:31:12] And so,

[00:31:13] if I gain fat

[00:31:14] a little too fast,

[00:31:16] leptin levels,

[00:31:17] insulin levels,

[00:31:18] and ghrelin levels

[00:31:19] do not adjust

[00:31:20] accordingly.

[00:31:21] And so,

[00:31:22] one time doing

[00:31:23] that isn't a big deal,

[00:31:24] but when you

[00:31:25] chronically do that

[00:31:26] and then you start

[00:31:28] under eating

[00:31:28] more and more

[00:31:29] and more over time

[00:31:30] as a way of life

[00:31:31] to manage your stress

[00:31:32] and life

[00:31:32] and responsibilities,

[00:31:34] it starts,

[00:31:35] the disparity

[00:31:36] in your hormonal

[00:31:37] imbalance

[00:31:37] in that frame

[00:31:38] starts to get

[00:31:39] more and more off.

[00:31:40] So,

[00:31:41] the second stage,

[00:31:42] so first is diet

[00:31:43] adaption,

[00:31:44] sex,

[00:31:44] second problem

[00:31:45] is hormonal

[00:31:47] impairment

[00:31:48] or hormonal adaption.

[00:31:50] So,

[00:31:50] this is where

[00:31:51] you start seeing issues.

[00:31:52] This is where

[00:31:53] the GLP is coming

[00:31:54] to play,

[00:31:54] which we could talk

[00:31:54] about another time

[00:31:55] and why insulin

[00:31:57] isn't necessarily

[00:31:58] the enemy.

[00:32:00] People think it's

[00:32:00] the enemy

[00:32:01] in hyperinsulinemia,

[00:32:03] but most chronic

[00:32:03] dieters,

[00:32:04] if you ever look

[00:32:05] at their labs,

[00:32:06] their insulin

[00:32:06] fasted will be

[00:32:07] a 2 or a 3,

[00:32:08] but yet they're

[00:32:09] gaining weight

[00:32:10] and can't lose

[00:32:10] it very well.

[00:32:11] And that's because

[00:32:12] their body isn't

[00:32:13] releasing enough

[00:32:14] insulin when they

[00:32:15] eat food.

[00:32:15] It's like a form

[00:32:16] of type 1.5

[00:32:17] diabetes,

[00:32:18] which is why

[00:32:19] semaglutide is so

[00:32:20] popular,

[00:32:21] not just because

[00:32:21] you don't eat

[00:32:22] very much,

[00:32:23] it's because it's

[00:32:23] the most important

[00:32:24] thing is it's

[00:32:24] releasing insulin,

[00:32:25] which is really

[00:32:26] dropping your sugar

[00:32:27] and helping you

[00:32:29] release leptin,

[00:32:30] which isn't

[00:32:31] happening when

[00:32:32] you're a chronic

[00:32:32] dieter and have

[00:32:33] other functional

[00:32:34] health issues

[00:32:35] growing in you

[00:32:36] over time.

[00:32:38] Now you're not

[00:32:39] releasing the

[00:32:39] insulin leptin

[00:32:40] really fast when

[00:32:41] you eat food,

[00:32:41] which is why

[00:32:42] people kind of

[00:32:43] get stuck,

[00:32:44] they're swollen,

[00:32:45] they don't know

[00:32:45] why they can't

[00:32:45] lose weight,

[00:32:46] they're having

[00:32:46] to get more

[00:32:47] extreme with

[00:32:48] cutting their

[00:32:48] calories and

[00:32:49] they're pushing

[00:32:49] themselves into a

[00:32:50] corner because now

[00:32:51] they're down to

[00:32:52] 1,000 or 800

[00:32:53] or wherever

[00:32:54] they're at or

[00:32:55] even 1,400 for

[00:32:56] a larger female

[00:32:57] and this is

[00:33:00] unsustainable

[00:33:00] emotionally for

[00:33:02] them so then

[00:33:03] they keep breaking

[00:33:04] out of it and it

[00:33:04] becomes this cycle

[00:33:06] of shame and

[00:33:09] guilt when it

[00:33:10] didn't have to

[00:33:11] be, you know,

[00:33:13] really isn't their

[00:33:14] fault, they just

[00:33:14] did what they

[00:33:15] thought they were

[00:33:15] supposed to and it

[00:33:16] led them into this.

[00:33:17] And then the final

[00:33:18] stage is important

[00:33:19] everyone, this is

[00:33:20] the most important

[00:33:21] one.

[00:33:22] The thing that

[00:33:23] makes caloric

[00:33:24] deficits medicinal

[00:33:28] is something

[00:33:29] called autophagy.

[00:33:30] Are you familiar

[00:33:30] with this term?

[00:33:32] So autophagy

[00:33:33] actually has more

[00:33:34] to do with your

[00:33:35] immune system

[00:33:37] than it does

[00:33:38] anything else.

[00:33:39] You have a

[00:33:40] secondary part of

[00:33:40] your immune system

[00:33:41] that are called

[00:33:42] M2 macrophages,

[00:33:44] T regulatory

[00:33:45] cells, they're very

[00:33:45] important females,

[00:33:46] that's why females

[00:33:47] have more of these

[00:33:47] issues.

[00:33:48] And what

[00:33:50] happens when you

[00:33:50] go into a fasted

[00:33:52] state or you

[00:33:52] work out or you

[00:33:53] sleep or you

[00:33:55] don't eat for a

[00:33:56] significant period of

[00:33:57] time or you cut

[00:33:58] your carbs or your

[00:33:59] protein down?

[00:34:01] Your second part of

[00:34:02] your immune system

[00:34:03] kicks in, it's the

[00:34:04] healing one.

[00:34:05] It's the stuff that

[00:34:06] will heal cells,

[00:34:07] heal mitochondria,

[00:34:09] get rid of free

[00:34:10] radical oxidative

[00:34:11] stress.

[00:34:11] Do you remember

[00:34:12] maybe Jen, back

[00:34:14] in the day, maybe

[00:34:14] you went through

[00:34:15] like your first

[00:34:16] breakup when you

[00:34:17] were young or

[00:34:17] something like

[00:34:18] that and you

[00:34:19] got really

[00:34:19] stressed out and

[00:34:20] you didn't eat and

[00:34:21] immediately all your

[00:34:22] inflammation off your

[00:34:23] body went away and

[00:34:23] you looked like a

[00:34:24] million bucks.

[00:34:25] And then you

[00:34:26] realize that later

[00:34:26] in life when you

[00:34:27] stress out that it

[00:34:28] does the exact

[00:34:29] opposite and now

[00:34:30] you swell and

[00:34:31] blow and like

[00:34:32] what the hell's the

[00:34:33] difference?

[00:34:34] Why did I get

[00:34:35] such a medicinal

[00:34:36] outcome from

[00:34:37] something I'm not

[00:34:37] supposed to do

[00:34:38] when I was young

[00:34:39] and I'm not getting

[00:34:40] the same response

[00:34:41] as I get older?

[00:34:42] It has everything

[00:34:43] to do with your

[00:34:44] immune system and

[00:34:44] that's what my

[00:34:45] whole, the last

[00:34:46] two and a half

[00:34:48] years of my

[00:34:49] career have been

[00:34:50] studying the immune

[00:34:51] system and its

[00:34:51] response to

[00:34:52] metabolism.

[00:34:53] It's a whole field

[00:34:53] of biology called

[00:34:55] immunometabolism.

[00:34:55] I'm sure you've

[00:34:55] never even heard

[00:34:56] of it.

[00:34:57] Nobody has.

[00:34:58] I didn't know it

[00:34:59] existed until I was

[00:35:00] trying to figure out

[00:35:01] what's going on with

[00:35:01] women and why

[00:35:02] is everyone in

[00:35:03] menopause having

[00:35:04] weight loss issues

[00:35:05] and if it's just

[00:35:07] calories in,

[00:35:07] calories out,

[00:35:08] explain to me

[00:35:09] type 1 diabetics

[00:35:10] that can't gain

[00:35:10] any weight.

[00:35:11] Explain to me

[00:35:13] OPCOS females

[00:35:14] that can't lose

[00:35:14] weight at 200

[00:35:15] calories.

[00:35:16] Explain to me

[00:35:16] menopause then,

[00:35:18] genius.

[00:35:18] Excuse my language.

[00:35:19] But it's true,

[00:35:21] right?

[00:35:21] If you don't work

[00:35:22] with these populations

[00:35:23] and you only work

[00:35:24] with 19-year-old

[00:35:25] females or males,

[00:35:27] then you're going

[00:35:27] to think that none

[00:35:28] of this stuff is

[00:35:29] real.

[00:35:29] Well, let me tell

[00:35:30] you someone who

[00:35:31] works with the

[00:35:31] hardest cases in

[00:35:32] the country,

[00:35:32] this stuff's very

[00:35:33] real and it's

[00:35:34] happening to more

[00:35:35] and more people,

[00:35:36] men and women,

[00:35:37] every single day.

[00:35:39] I think it's one

[00:35:40] of the fastest

[00:35:40] growing problems

[00:35:41] in the country

[00:35:41] that we don't

[00:35:42] realize is leading

[00:35:43] to our health

[00:35:44] issues.

[00:35:44] Because if you

[00:35:45] can't burn fat,

[00:35:47] you're building

[00:35:48] oxidative stress.

[00:35:49] You're burning,

[00:35:50] you're building

[00:35:50] inflammation.

[00:35:51] Remember,

[00:35:52] autophagy,

[00:35:53] if you can get

[00:35:53] into autophagy,

[00:35:54] you should be

[00:35:55] burning fat.

[00:35:56] If you can't

[00:35:57] burn fat,

[00:35:58] you're no longer

[00:35:59] getting into

[00:35:59] autophagy very much

[00:36:00] and you're staying

[00:36:01] in a sugar-burning

[00:36:02] state just like

[00:36:03] a diabetic,

[00:36:04] just like someone

[00:36:05] who's obese.

[00:36:06] At any weight,

[00:36:08] at any weight,

[00:36:09] this is happening.

[00:36:10] So,

[00:36:11] the last stage

[00:36:12] is what we call

[00:36:13] severe cellular

[00:36:14] inflammation,

[00:36:15] where literally

[00:36:15] the mitochondria

[00:36:17] can only run

[00:36:17] on two energies.

[00:36:18] This is where

[00:36:18] it gets complicated

[00:36:19] and I'm going

[00:36:20] to try to keep

[00:36:20] it simple.

[00:36:21] It can only

[00:36:21] run on two things.

[00:36:23] Like,

[00:36:23] let's think about

[00:36:24] your gas tank.

[00:36:24] Your gas tank

[00:36:25] can run on

[00:36:26] regular gas

[00:36:27] or let's say

[00:36:28] ethanol.

[00:36:29] Let's say

[00:36:30] the ethanol

[00:36:30] is really healthy

[00:36:31] for you to run

[00:36:31] on.

[00:36:33] Every year

[00:36:34] you chronically

[00:36:34] diet,

[00:36:35] hormones get off,

[00:36:36] you can't tap

[00:36:37] into the ethanol

[00:36:38] gas tank

[00:36:39] and you get

[00:36:39] stuck with

[00:36:40] the regular

[00:36:41] gas.

[00:36:42] And you keep

[00:36:43] running on

[00:36:43] regular gas

[00:36:44] all day.

[00:36:45] That's pro-inflammatory.

[00:36:47] So,

[00:36:48] when we're younger

[00:36:48] and we cut back

[00:36:49] our calories,

[00:36:50] inflammation goes

[00:36:51] away right away

[00:36:52] because caloric

[00:36:53] deficit should be

[00:36:54] medicinal

[00:36:56] because autophagy

[00:36:57] kicks in.

[00:36:58] But you'll notice

[00:36:59] that that stops

[00:37:00] happening because

[00:37:01] once a person

[00:37:02] gets,

[00:37:02] their metabolism

[00:37:03] slows down,

[00:37:04] they're swollen

[00:37:05] all the time.

[00:37:06] You'll notice

[00:37:07] this is one

[00:37:07] of the key

[00:37:08] factors of

[00:37:09] swelling.

[00:37:10] And it's

[00:37:10] because when

[00:37:12] they drop

[00:37:12] the calories,

[00:37:13] the second

[00:37:14] part of the

[00:37:14] immune system

[00:37:15] did not kick

[00:37:16] in.

[00:37:16] They're not

[00:37:17] getting the

[00:37:17] medicinal benefits

[00:37:18] of caloric

[00:37:18] deficits and

[00:37:19] now it's just

[00:37:20] malnourishment.

[00:37:21] So,

[00:37:21] they're eating

[00:37:22] muscle,

[00:37:22] they're causing

[00:37:23] hormonal

[00:37:24] dysregulation,

[00:37:25] they're also

[00:37:26] usually getting

[00:37:27] other health

[00:37:27] issues now.

[00:37:28] I've got gut

[00:37:29] issues,

[00:37:30] I've got an

[00:37:30] autoimmune issue,

[00:37:31] the doctor says

[00:37:31] I have hypothyroid,

[00:37:33] like the list

[00:37:34] goes on and

[00:37:34] on.

[00:37:35] Because,

[00:37:36] like a diabetic,

[00:37:38] even though

[00:37:38] they're not,

[00:37:39] they are stuck

[00:37:40] in a sugar

[00:37:41] burning state.

[00:37:42] And I can

[00:37:42] prove it if

[00:37:43] anyone were to

[00:37:43] wear a

[00:37:45] CGM or do

[00:37:46] two-hour

[00:37:47] postprandial

[00:37:48] glucose,

[00:37:48] I don't care

[00:37:49] about fasting,

[00:37:49] fasting glucose

[00:37:50] misleads people,

[00:37:52] two-hour

[00:37:52] postprandial.

[00:37:53] If anyone's

[00:37:54] having a hard

[00:37:54] time losing

[00:37:55] weight and you

[00:37:55] check your

[00:37:56] two-hour

[00:37:56] postprandial and

[00:37:57] you do it for

[00:37:57] two or three

[00:37:58] meals in a day,

[00:37:59] you're going

[00:37:59] to see you look

[00:38:00] almost pre-diabetic,

[00:38:01] your sugars are

[00:38:01] going to be going

[00:38:02] all over the

[00:38:02] place and then

[00:38:04] you're going to

[00:38:04] know,

[00:38:04] oh,

[00:38:05] I have a

[00:38:05] problem

[00:38:06] internally and

[00:38:07] how my body's

[00:38:08] utilizing fuel

[00:38:09] on a cellular

[00:38:10] level and it's

[00:38:11] showing up in

[00:38:11] my blood vessels.

[00:38:13] And that's what

[00:38:13] we've discovered

[00:38:14] and that's why

[00:38:15] I'm trying to

[00:38:15] tell as many

[00:38:16] people as

[00:38:16] possible because

[00:38:17] this is what's

[00:38:17] happening in the

[00:38:18] background of

[00:38:19] something that's

[00:38:20] from the eyes

[00:38:21] just seems like

[00:38:22] it's defying the

[00:38:24] laws of physics,

[00:38:25] like the law of

[00:38:26] thermodynamics,

[00:38:26] but it's

[00:38:27] not.

[00:38:28] But it's

[00:38:28] not.

[00:38:29] Yeah.

[00:38:29] So what is

[00:38:30] it like?

[00:38:30] What's the first

[00:38:31] step then?

[00:38:32] What does

[00:38:32] someone start to

[00:38:33] focus on?

[00:38:33] Well, we

[00:38:34] never know

[00:38:35] when someone's

[00:38:36] again, the

[00:38:37] three phases,

[00:38:38] I'm either just

[00:38:38] diet adapted,

[00:38:40] I'm hormonally

[00:38:41] imbalanced,

[00:38:41] or I have

[00:38:42] metabolic disease

[00:38:42] or dysfunction.

[00:38:44] Right.

[00:38:44] Right.

[00:38:45] Those are

[00:38:45] really the

[00:38:45] three stages.

[00:38:46] Right.

[00:38:47] So if

[00:38:47] somebody, let's

[00:38:47] say someone

[00:38:48] comes in with

[00:38:48] PCOS or the

[00:38:49] chronic dieting

[00:38:50] history in our

[00:38:51] practice at

[00:38:51] Vital Coaching,

[00:38:52] the first

[00:38:53] thing that

[00:38:53] we're going

[00:38:54] to do is

[00:38:54] we're going

[00:38:55] to try to

[00:38:55] reverse diet,

[00:38:57] the diet

[00:38:58] adaption.

[00:38:59] Right.

[00:38:59] So I've

[00:39:00] developed a

[00:39:00] system called

[00:39:00] the flush

[00:39:01] method where

[00:39:01] we can

[00:39:02] stimulate all

[00:39:03] the, the,

[00:39:04] the, you

[00:39:06] have 11

[00:39:06] systems of

[00:39:07] the body.

[00:39:07] Okay.

[00:39:08] And they

[00:39:09] all have a

[00:39:10] little bit of

[00:39:10] metabolic rate.

[00:39:11] Okay.

[00:39:12] So like your

[00:39:12] liver is like

[00:39:13] 12%, your

[00:39:14] kidneys are

[00:39:15] like six,

[00:39:15] your, your

[00:39:16] muscles, 12

[00:39:17] to 20%,

[00:39:18] depending on your

[00:39:19] body composition,

[00:39:19] your heart's like

[00:39:21] five or

[00:39:21] seven.

[00:39:22] Like it has

[00:39:24] all kind of

[00:39:24] your digestions

[00:39:26] a few percent

[00:39:26] as well.

[00:39:27] They all kind

[00:39:28] of add to

[00:39:29] what we call

[00:39:30] your basal

[00:39:30] metabolic rate.

[00:39:31] And if your

[00:39:32] diet adapted,

[00:39:33] everybody knows

[00:39:34] that that

[00:39:34] declines,

[00:39:35] right?

[00:39:36] Well, you have

[00:39:37] a metabolic

[00:39:38] actual or

[00:39:39] what we'll

[00:39:39] call BMR

[00:39:40] a and a

[00:39:42] BMR P or

[00:39:43] BMR potential.

[00:39:45] Right.

[00:39:45] And you can

[00:39:46] check your

[00:39:46] potential if

[00:39:47] you use the

[00:39:47] right, like I

[00:39:48] think the

[00:39:48] Harris Benedict

[00:39:49] like BMR

[00:39:50] calculator, you

[00:39:51] could see what

[00:39:52] I should have a

[00:39:53] metabolism that

[00:39:54] just if I

[00:39:55] laid here and

[00:39:56] did nothing

[00:39:57] should burn

[00:39:58] about 14 to

[00:39:59] 1600 calories,

[00:40:00] but I'm

[00:40:01] eating 12 and

[00:40:03] I'm working out

[00:40:03] an hour a day

[00:40:05] and I'm not

[00:40:06] losing weight and

[00:40:06] I'm, and I

[00:40:07] maybe I'm

[00:40:08] gaining weight.

[00:40:08] So that might

[00:40:09] be your BMR

[00:40:10] actual, like

[00:40:11] right now,

[00:40:12] literally I'm

[00:40:13] at 1100 calories

[00:40:14] and that's my

[00:40:15] actual.

[00:40:16] But if I look

[00:40:17] at my potential,

[00:40:17] I should be

[00:40:18] able to eat

[00:40:19] 1400 or 1500

[00:40:20] calories and this

[00:40:21] is what I want

[00:40:21] people to

[00:40:21] understand.

[00:40:22] The healthier

[00:40:23] metabolic rate

[00:40:24] is the less

[00:40:25] chance of

[00:40:25] disease because

[00:40:26] all disease is

[00:40:27] metabolic.

[00:40:29] It's very hard

[00:40:31] for you to find

[00:40:31] someone that has

[00:40:32] an amazing

[00:40:33] metabolism and

[00:40:34] has a lot of

[00:40:34] disease.

[00:40:35] You'll rarely

[00:40:36] see that.

[00:40:37] Yeah.

[00:40:37] Because all

[00:40:38] things are all

[00:40:39] diseases metabolic.

[00:40:40] So if you

[00:40:41] reverse the

[00:40:42] metabolic issues,

[00:40:44] you reverse

[00:40:45] most disease.

[00:40:46] And that's

[00:40:47] what I want

[00:40:47] people to

[00:40:47] understand is

[00:40:48] like, if I

[00:40:49] can improve

[00:40:49] your metabolic

[00:40:50] rate, I've

[00:40:50] significantly

[00:40:51] reduced your

[00:40:51] fixed factors

[00:40:52] for almost

[00:40:52] every kind of

[00:40:53] condition on

[00:40:53] planet Earth.

[00:40:55] And so we

[00:40:57] have a process

[00:40:57] where we're

[00:40:58] able to stimulate

[00:40:58] the things

[00:40:59] that get low.

[00:41:00] So if I've

[00:41:01] got power

[00:41:02] running to

[00:41:02] the house and

[00:41:04] let's say

[00:41:05] there's a power

[00:41:05] shortage and

[00:41:07] only 80% of

[00:41:08] power is

[00:41:08] running to the

[00:41:09] house, okay,

[00:41:10] then my lights

[00:41:11] are going to

[00:41:12] dim.

[00:41:12] Maybe my oven

[00:41:14] works funny.

[00:41:14] It's going to

[00:41:15] run to every

[00:41:15] area in the

[00:41:16] house, okay?

[00:41:17] Same thing

[00:41:18] with your body.

[00:41:19] So my thyroid's

[00:41:20] going to run a

[00:41:21] little low.

[00:41:22] My adrenals are

[00:41:23] going to run a

[00:41:23] little low.

[00:41:24] My digestion's

[00:41:25] going to slow

[00:41:25] down.

[00:41:26] My liver's

[00:41:26] going to slow

[00:41:27] down.

[00:41:27] My kidneys

[00:41:28] are going to

[00:41:28] slow down.

[00:41:29] The amount

[00:41:30] of energy I

[00:41:31] burn during an

[00:41:32] hour activity is

[00:41:33] going to slow

[00:41:33] down.

[00:41:34] Thermogenic

[00:41:34] effective activity.

[00:41:35] How about

[00:41:36] this?

[00:41:36] The heat

[00:41:37] released by any

[00:41:38] object.

[00:41:39] One of the

[00:41:39] first things to

[00:41:40] go when your

[00:41:42] metabolism is

[00:41:42] slowing down is

[00:41:43] your ability to

[00:41:44] heat up and

[00:41:45] burn off

[00:41:46] calories when

[00:41:46] you eat food.

[00:41:47] So maybe

[00:41:48] Jen or

[00:41:49] either one of

[00:41:50] you, maybe

[00:41:50] you noticed

[00:41:50] when you were

[00:41:51] younger, if I

[00:41:52] ate a bunch of

[00:41:53] carbs after a

[00:41:54] workout and I

[00:41:54] went to bed, I'd

[00:41:55] sweat out the

[00:41:56] bed.

[00:41:56] I still do now.

[00:41:58] I do.

[00:41:58] Okay?

[00:41:59] That's your body

[00:42:00] getting rid of

[00:42:01] some excess

[00:42:02] calories through

[00:42:03] heat.

[00:42:04] The increase in

[00:42:05] calories through

[00:42:06] heat.

[00:42:06] And that's the

[00:42:07] law with

[00:42:07] thermodynamics

[00:42:08] playing out in

[00:42:09] front of you.

[00:42:09] The thermogenic

[00:42:10] effect of food.

[00:42:10] food.

[00:42:11] That's the

[00:42:12] first thing that

[00:42:12] goes away.

[00:42:13] So women will

[00:42:14] always talk about

[00:42:15] being cold and

[00:42:17] their BP or

[00:42:18] their blood flow

[00:42:19] will kind of

[00:42:20] slow down.

[00:42:21] They'll get

[00:42:21] slightly anemic.

[00:42:24] And there's

[00:42:24] always a B12

[00:42:25] or iron or

[00:42:26] something going

[00:42:27] on.

[00:42:28] They're not

[00:42:28] digesting everything

[00:42:30] that they eat

[00:42:30] very well.

[00:42:31] Right?

[00:42:32] And so what's

[00:42:34] happened is all

[00:42:36] everything's powered

[00:42:37] down a little bit.

[00:42:38] Everything's running

[00:42:39] a little slow.

[00:42:41] Right?

[00:42:42] This is why I

[00:42:43] make an argument

[00:42:46] that science-based

[00:42:49] elimination, what

[00:42:50] we call flush

[00:42:50] diets, or I mean

[00:42:51] you can call it a

[00:42:52] detox diet.

[00:42:53] But I'm, and

[00:42:55] yes, do we want to

[00:42:55] mobilize toxins in

[00:42:56] people's bodies?

[00:42:57] Yes.

[00:42:57] If you have a

[00:42:57] slower metabolism

[00:42:59] of fat, you have a

[00:43:00] slower metabolism

[00:43:01] of everything.

[00:43:04] Metabolizing

[00:43:04] estrogen, metabolizing

[00:43:06] toxins, everything's

[00:43:07] metabolism.

[00:43:08] So everything

[00:43:09] slows down.

[00:43:11] Right?

[00:43:12] So if I can speed

[00:43:13] up your thyroid,

[00:43:14] your liver, your

[00:43:15] kidneys, your

[00:43:17] motility in your

[00:43:18] gut, and I could

[00:43:19] do it within 12

[00:43:19] days, and I

[00:43:21] flipped your diet,

[00:43:23] I've reversed it a

[00:43:24] little bit, and

[00:43:25] increase your

[00:43:25] calories some, I

[00:43:26] can stimulate your

[00:43:28] body within a 12

[00:43:28] day period and get

[00:43:29] you to increase

[00:43:30] your calories 3 or

[00:43:31] 400 and have

[00:43:32] about a 92%

[00:43:33] chance of losing

[00:43:34] weight within 12

[00:43:35] days.

[00:43:35] So now your

[00:43:36] basal metabolic rate

[00:43:37] has a higher place

[00:43:38] to start from if

[00:43:40] we're going to go

[00:43:40] into more of a

[00:43:41] prolonged dieting

[00:43:42] system.

[00:43:42] That was one of

[00:43:43] the first diets I

[00:43:44] created because I

[00:43:45] was running into

[00:43:45] this problem

[00:43:47] everywhere, particularly

[00:43:48] with female

[00:43:49] athletes, female

[00:43:51] entrepreneurs, women

[00:43:53] in high stress

[00:43:54] work environments,

[00:43:55] or high physical

[00:43:57] output environments

[00:43:58] where their body

[00:43:59] has adapted and

[00:44:01] acclimated to that

[00:44:02] environment in a

[00:44:03] very, what we

[00:44:06] call maladaption in a

[00:44:07] very unfavorable

[00:44:08] way.

[00:44:10] And that was one of

[00:44:11] the ways we were

[00:44:12] able to get people to

[00:44:12] start losing weight and

[00:44:13] feel good again.

[00:44:15] You know, because when

[00:44:16] someone comes to you

[00:44:17] and they're like, I

[00:44:18] feel like crap and I

[00:44:20] can't lose weight, I

[00:44:21] need you to help me.

[00:44:22] What they want you to

[00:44:23] do is make them feel

[00:44:24] great and lose weight at

[00:44:25] the same time.

[00:44:25] And it's like, whoa,

[00:44:26] wait, wait, wait.

[00:44:27] Where can we start?

[00:44:29] Can we start with how

[00:44:30] you feel and then maybe

[00:44:31] I get to the weight

[00:44:32] thing and people don't

[00:44:33] want to wait.

[00:44:33] The psychology of

[00:44:34] success means you've

[00:44:36] got to build on wins.

[00:44:37] The psychology is more

[00:44:38] important than the

[00:44:39] physiology.

[00:44:40] So if you don't give

[00:44:41] somebody a quick win in

[00:44:42] a long-term journey,

[00:44:44] you're not going to hang

[00:44:45] on to them long enough to

[00:44:46] fully fix the metabolism,

[00:44:47] which probably takes

[00:44:49] anywhere from for mild

[00:44:50] adaption, three to six

[00:44:52] months for severe

[00:44:53] disease, it can take

[00:44:55] 12 to 18 months.

[00:44:58] Right?

[00:44:58] Yeah.

[00:44:59] And so how am I going

[00:45:01] to get you all the way

[00:45:01] there?

[00:45:02] Well, I got to build on

[00:45:03] small wins and the

[00:45:06] psychology of it.

[00:45:07] And that's why I

[00:45:07] developed the flush

[00:45:08] system.

[00:45:08] So for people at home,

[00:45:11] you know, one of the

[00:45:11] things that I highly

[00:45:13] recommend, there's two

[00:45:14] routes you can go.

[00:45:16] What I highly recommend

[00:45:17] is a reverse diet that

[00:45:20] is actually, believe

[00:45:21] it or not, it's going

[00:45:22] to sound a little

[00:45:22] crazy.

[00:45:22] It's more like a Daniel

[00:45:23] fast where you eat

[00:45:25] more fruits and vegetables

[00:45:26] and no protein at first

[00:45:28] because you need to do

[00:45:29] the opposite of whatever

[00:45:30] you've been doing.

[00:45:31] You're living in upside

[00:45:31] down world.

[00:45:32] You may have been eating

[00:45:33] high protein and almost

[00:45:34] no calories and you

[00:45:35] actually need to move to

[00:45:36] simple energy that your

[00:45:37] body can process quickly.

[00:45:39] I know that sounds a

[00:45:40] little wild.

[00:45:41] I understand, but this

[00:45:42] is how I figured out

[00:45:44] people's bodies adapt to

[00:45:45] what they're doing.

[00:45:46] If you've been doing

[00:45:47] something for a very,

[00:45:48] very long time, you're

[00:45:50] now maladapted.

[00:45:51] You're plateaued to it,

[00:45:52] right?

[00:45:53] Just like a workout.

[00:45:54] Right?

[00:45:54] So how do you reverse

[00:45:56] an adaption?

[00:45:57] You do the opposite.

[00:46:00] As a simple answer I

[00:46:02] can give.

[00:46:02] And so we go to a Daniel

[00:46:05] fast.

[00:46:06] It's like eating a lot

[00:46:06] of fruits, veggies,

[00:46:08] you know, juices,

[00:46:08] things like that.

[00:46:09] You actually bring the

[00:46:10] protein pretty low.

[00:46:11] You go to more of a

[00:46:12] Mediterranean based diet.

[00:46:14] Right?

[00:46:15] And then you can slowly

[00:46:16] feed yourself up.

[00:46:18] Um, you know, oh, like

[00:46:20] a hundred calories a week

[00:46:21] for four to six weeks

[00:46:23] and you shouldn't gain any

[00:46:24] weight if you do it

[00:46:25] right.

[00:46:25] You really should.

[00:46:27] And then you'll bring

[00:46:27] your metabolism higher.

[00:46:29] Um, and then, and then

[00:46:31] back off the training a

[00:46:32] little bit, whatever type

[00:46:32] of training you've been

[00:46:33] doing, I want you to

[00:46:34] reduce it to something

[00:46:35] more parasympathetic.

[00:46:36] I want you to do things

[00:46:37] that calm the nervous

[00:46:38] system down.

[00:46:39] All right.

[00:46:40] So things like walking,

[00:46:41] yoga, meditation.

[00:46:43] I know no one wants to

[00:46:44] hear this.

[00:46:44] I'm sorry.

[00:46:45] If I could do it any

[00:46:46] other way, I would.

[00:46:47] Okay.

[00:46:48] I love clanging weights

[00:46:49] and getting insane and

[00:46:50] working out all the time

[00:46:52] too, but there's a time

[00:46:54] for that.

[00:46:54] And there's a time to

[00:46:55] cycle off of that

[00:46:56] because everything needs

[00:46:57] a cycle.

[00:46:58] Uh, uh, what we call,

[00:47:00] um, uh, our, our

[00:47:02] variation.

[00:47:03] So workout variations,

[00:47:05] diet variations, you

[00:47:07] need to have seasons,

[00:47:10] right?

[00:47:11] Our bodies are adapted

[00:47:12] to seasons.

[00:47:12] So there's a season

[00:47:13] I'm a, I'm a back

[00:47:14] off, maybe training

[00:47:16] or doing hit cardio

[00:47:17] and high intensity

[00:47:18] training or heavy

[00:47:20] hypertrophy training.

[00:47:21] I'm going to move to

[00:47:22] something more functional,

[00:47:23] maybe to something

[00:47:23] to kettle, uh,

[00:47:25] Pilates walking.

[00:47:27] I can, you can walk

[00:47:28] forever and not hurt

[00:47:29] your metabolism.

[00:47:30] You want to walk an

[00:47:30] hour and a half a day,

[00:47:31] do it right.

[00:47:32] Um, it doesn't stress

[00:47:34] the body out and you're

[00:47:35] not going to gain weight

[00:47:36] doing that.

[00:47:37] Gives your body a break

[00:47:39] and then now switch your

[00:47:40] macros around, try to eat

[00:47:41] more again, Mediterranean.

[00:47:44] Um, bring up, believe it

[00:47:46] or not, don't be afraid of

[00:47:47] fruits, even fruit juices.

[00:47:48] I know it sounds

[00:47:49] counterintuitive.

[00:47:50] You're not going to do

[00:47:50] this forever.

[00:47:52] Right.

[00:47:53] Um, we have simple

[00:47:53] guides for this.

[00:47:54] We give it vital coaching

[00:47:55] all the time, or they can

[00:47:56] take a course for like

[00:47:56] one 97 or our coaches

[00:47:58] will walk them through

[00:47:58] it low.

[00:47:59] You know, again, it's

[00:48:01] something that's available

[00:48:01] because sometimes what

[00:48:02] I'm telling people might be

[00:48:03] hard to do on their own

[00:48:05] when they're creatures of

[00:48:06] habit.

[00:48:07] Yeah.

[00:48:08] But that's why solving

[00:48:09] this a lot of times, um,

[00:48:11] and truly solving it at a

[00:48:12] high success rate requires

[00:48:14] some of that.

[00:48:14] Right.

[00:48:15] And I know, I mean, again,

[00:48:17] the example you gave is,

[00:48:18] is amazing, but like you

[00:48:19] said, there's people can

[00:48:19] be at any stage of this

[00:48:22] maladaption that, that

[00:48:23] you explained earlier, and

[00:48:25] it's going to be a little

[00:48:25] bit more specific to where

[00:48:28] they're at.

[00:48:28] And that's why, you know,

[00:48:30] getting in with coaching

[00:48:31] with you, checking out the

[00:48:33] flush method, which I know

[00:48:34] you just recently, uh,

[00:48:36] launched a new book.

[00:48:37] So congrats on that.

[00:48:38] Thank you very much.

[00:48:39] Or the, or the, the

[00:48:40] flush program.

[00:48:41] Where can people go to

[00:48:42] check that all out?

[00:48:43] So we do on our website

[00:48:46] right now, we have an

[00:48:48] advanced assessment that

[00:48:49] anybody can do for free

[00:48:50] and it'll tell them the

[00:48:52] level of severity they're

[00:48:53] at so that they can, they

[00:48:54] can start in the right

[00:48:55] place because it's all

[00:48:57] about speaking to people

[00:48:58] where they're at, which

[00:48:59] can be hard to do in

[00:49:01] this space.

[00:49:01] It would be like me

[00:49:03] talking about venture

[00:49:04] capital to someone who's

[00:49:06] just starting out as an

[00:49:08] entrepreneur.

[00:49:08] Like they don't need to

[00:49:09] hear that, right?

[00:49:10] What they need to hear is

[00:49:11] get up one more day,

[00:49:12] make 10 more calls and

[00:49:14] never get, don't give

[00:49:14] up.

[00:49:15] Right.

[00:49:16] They don't need to hear

[00:49:17] this other stuff.

[00:49:18] Right.

[00:49:18] Right.

[00:49:19] And that's hard on

[00:49:20] Instagram, social media.

[00:49:21] You've got people talking

[00:49:22] to people at certain

[00:49:24] stages of, of a process.

[00:49:27] And most people are just

[00:49:29] trying to figure out where

[00:49:30] to begin, let alone

[00:49:32] whatever you're talking

[00:49:33] about.

[00:49:34] And so our assessments,

[00:49:36] you can fill them out for

[00:49:37] free and it'll tell you

[00:49:38] the level of severity.

[00:49:39] And then you can meet

[00:49:40] with one of our, uh, are

[00:49:41] my experts that are always

[00:49:43] standing by.

[00:49:43] We have a team of like

[00:49:44] over a hundred people.

[00:49:45] They're frigging amazing.

[00:49:47] They they've all, you

[00:49:48] know, had amazing results

[00:49:49] with the process and

[00:49:50] now they want to change

[00:49:51] other people's lives and

[00:49:52] they'll consult with you

[00:49:53] and say, yeah, you know

[00:49:53] what?

[00:49:54] You can take one of our

[00:49:54] courses with one coaching

[00:49:55] session.

[00:49:56] You probably just have

[00:49:57] some diet adaption.

[00:49:59] Oh, Mrs. Jones, it looks

[00:50:00] like you also have some

[00:50:01] hormonal adaption.

[00:50:02] So why don't you do our

[00:50:03] flush course and then meet

[00:50:03] with our endocrinology

[00:50:04] team and they can help

[00:50:06] you with the hormone

[00:50:06] side or it's like, Hey,

[00:50:08] Mrs. Jones, it looks

[00:50:09] like you got your

[00:50:10] lighting up across the

[00:50:12] board.

[00:50:12] This is probably metabolic

[00:50:14] disease.

[00:50:15] We need to do more

[00:50:15] advanced labs and all of

[00:50:17] that's included in our

[00:50:18] coaching.

[00:50:18] We have our own medical

[00:50:19] health network.

[00:50:20] We don't need the rest

[00:50:20] of the world.

[00:50:21] We always tell people

[00:50:22] when they come in,

[00:50:22] unless you need your

[00:50:23] doctor, you can wave

[00:50:24] goodbye.

[00:50:25] We have the whole

[00:50:26] system here.

[00:50:27] So it's all very

[00:50:28] convenient, can be done

[00:50:29] online virtually from

[00:50:30] your home and you get

[00:50:32] everything you need.

[00:50:32] We have our own

[00:50:33] medical teams, coaches

[00:50:34] and everything.

[00:50:34] Amazing.

[00:50:35] Well, we're going to

[00:50:36] have that all linked

[00:50:37] up so that people can

[00:50:38] find exactly what they

[00:50:40] need to get the help

[00:50:41] that they want because

[00:50:42] I know that this is a

[00:50:43] huge issue for so many

[00:50:45] people and I'm already

[00:50:46] like thinking of so many

[00:50:47] people in my head.

[00:50:48] who can benefit.

[00:50:50] By the way, we've

[00:50:51] solved it to the point

[00:50:52] where we get this.

[00:50:54] We're the only company

[00:50:54] that does this in the

[00:50:55] world.

[00:50:56] If somebody's listening

[00:50:57] and you're struggling,

[00:50:58] I don't want you to be

[00:50:59] afraid anymore that this

[00:50:59] is just another something.

[00:51:01] Another guy getting on

[00:51:02] here who maybe kind of

[00:51:03] knows what he's talking

[00:51:04] about, has an idea and

[00:51:06] tries to sell it like

[00:51:07] it's the answer.

[00:51:08] So we're the first

[00:51:09] company that guarantees

[00:51:11] outcomes.

[00:51:11] If you come and you

[00:51:12] trust my program, you

[00:51:14] trust me and you're

[00:51:15] willing to follow a

[00:51:16] process generally or

[00:51:18] generally consistently,

[00:51:19] then the result should

[00:51:20] not be on you anymore.

[00:51:22] It should be on us.

[00:51:23] And so we have a program

[00:51:25] guarantee.

[00:51:25] We don't sell programs.

[00:51:26] We sell outcomes.

[00:51:28] So if you've been

[00:51:29] struggling this three to

[00:51:30] five to seven years,

[00:51:31] that's all we do.

[00:51:32] Guess what?

[00:51:32] Light work for us.

[00:51:33] We guarantee the outcome

[00:51:35] or we'll work with you for

[00:51:36] free till we do.

[00:51:37] That's how we work at our

[00:51:38] program.

[00:51:39] We're not about more

[00:51:40] broken promises, maybes,

[00:51:42] hang on longer.

[00:51:43] It'll happen.

[00:51:44] No.

[00:51:45] The buck stops with us

[00:51:46] because we know what

[00:51:47] people are going through

[00:51:48] out there, falling through

[00:51:49] the cracks of the medical

[00:51:50] system.

[00:51:50] We refuse to be part of

[00:51:51] the problem.

[00:51:52] Yeah.

[00:51:52] And I think that's the

[00:51:53] biggest pain point that

[00:51:54] your company was born out

[00:51:55] of was the frustration of

[00:51:57] people falling through

[00:51:58] five, ten different

[00:51:59] providers and never having

[00:52:01] a solution.

[00:52:02] So I appreciate the work

[00:52:03] that you do, the company

[00:52:04] that you've built.

[00:52:05] I hope that some people

[00:52:06] out there hear this and go

[00:52:07] and get started.

[00:52:09] I'm on your site.

[00:52:09] Like we said, we'll have

[00:52:10] all that information.

[00:52:11] They're more than welcome

[00:52:12] to reach out on my

[00:52:12] Instagram, Vince underscore

[00:52:13] pit stick.

[00:52:14] It's an Australian deodorant,

[00:52:15] even though it's a German

[00:52:16] last name.

[00:52:17] No, it was a growth

[00:52:18] opportunity as a kid, pit

[00:52:19] and stick.

[00:52:20] You can't mess that up.

[00:52:22] But if you reach out on

[00:52:24] my Instagram, me and my

[00:52:25] team experts are on there

[00:52:26] as well.

[00:52:26] We can talk to you a little

[00:52:27] bit on there.

[00:52:28] They're willing to spend

[00:52:29] the time.

[00:52:29] They know what it's like.

[00:52:30] They'll bring you in for

[00:52:31] a consult.

[00:52:32] You'll feel very welcome.

[00:52:34] And like I said, you trust

[00:52:36] us.

[00:52:37] It's a guarantee.

[00:52:37] It's done already.

[00:52:39] You just don't know it.

[00:52:40] You know, and that's what

[00:52:41] we're that's what we're all

[00:52:42] about.

[00:52:43] Amazing.

[00:52:43] I love it.

[00:52:44] Well, thank you so much,

[00:52:45] Vince.

[00:52:45] I know there's so much more

[00:52:46] we could have dove into.

[00:52:47] And that's where your

[00:52:47] Instagram.

[00:52:48] I think you guys go explore

[00:52:49] because he's got so much

[00:52:51] incredible information and

[00:52:52] the way you break it down is

[00:52:53] great.

[00:52:53] So thank you.

[00:52:55] Thank you so much for taking

[00:52:56] time and chatting with us.

[00:52:58] Awesome.

[00:52:59] Thank you so much for joining

[00:53:01] us on another episode.

[00:53:02] Hopefully you learned a ton.

[00:53:03] There is so much information

[00:53:05] Vince went through and I know

[00:53:06] that it can get a little

[00:53:07] confusing.

[00:53:08] So going to get the assessment

[00:53:10] that we're going to have

[00:53:11] linked up in the show notes

[00:53:12] just to get an idea.

[00:53:14] Figure out what's going on.

[00:53:15] Figure out what could be the

[00:53:16] root cause.

[00:53:17] That is everything that can

[00:53:19] really help to change your

[00:53:19] life.

[00:53:20] So if you heard something

[00:53:20] that you think can benefit

[00:53:21] someone else or you're

[00:53:23] thinking of someone as he's

[00:53:24] talking, please pass this

[00:53:26] episode along.

[00:53:27] This is how we get the

[00:53:28] information out so we can

[00:53:29] help more people.

[00:53:30] And of course, we'll see you

[00:53:31] back on another episode of

[00:53:33] the optimal body podcast.